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    Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Children

    WikiLeaks on 5th April 2010 10:44 EST has obtained and decrypted a Classified US Military Video Footage depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people -- including two Reuters news staff Namir Noor-Eldeen, driver Saeed Chmagh, and several others civilians in a public square in Eastern Baghdad.

    After the initial shooting, a group of adults and children in a minivan arrives on the scene and attempts to transport the wounded. They are fired upon as well. The official statement on this incident initially listed all adults as insurgents and claimed the US military did not know how the deaths ocurred. Wikileaks released this video with transcripts and a package of supporting documents on Collateral Murder

    VIDEO:Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq

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    Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded. The military did not reveal how the Reuters staff were killed, and stated that they did not know how the children were injured. After demands by Reuters, the incident was investigated and the U.S. military concluded that the actions of the soldiers were in accordance with the law of armed conflict and its own Rules of Engagement. Consequently, WikiLeaks has released the classified Rules of Engagement for 2006, 2007 and 2008, revealing these rules before, during, and after the killings.

    WikiLeaks has released both the original 38 minutes video and a shorter version with an initial analysis. Subtitles have been added to both versions from the radio transmissions. WikiLeaks obtained this video as well as supporting documents from a number of military whistleblowers. WikiLeaks goes to great lengths to verify the authenticity of the information it receives. We have analyzed the information about this incident from a variety of source material. We have spoken to witnesses and journalists directly involved in the incident. WikiLeaks wants to ensure that all the leaked information it receives gets the attention it deserves.



    News Related

    1. Wikileaks reveals video showing US air crew shooting down Iraqi civilians | World news | The Guardian
    2. Leaked video footage shows Iraq journalists killed by US gunships - Times Online
    3. BBC News - WikiLeaks posts video of 'US military killings' in Iraq



    Articles and Blogs

    1. Reuters blog article on Nameer Noor-Eldeen and Saeed Chmagh
    2. Reuters Memorial Article
    3. Reuters seeks U.S. probe into killing of Iraqi staff | Reuters
    4. Deadly Stories 2007: Killings of Journalists Touch Record Level
    5. Photograph of memorial billboard in front of Reuters headquarters | Facebook
    6. End The War in Iraq - Some photos of Namirs
    7. Iraq War Grief Daily Witness - Some photos of Namirs
    8. Iraq: The Forgotten Victims - Press Gazette
    9. Committee to Protect Journalists: Namir Noor-Eldeen and Saeed Chmagh
    10. British Journal of Photography - Photographer killed in Iraq
    11. Thoughts on the Middle East, Politics and the Media: A Tribute to Namir Noor Eldeen



    Extra Source Material

    1. US Rules of Engagement
    2. US Rules of Engagement Flowchart



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    Re: Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Childrens in Iraq

    Udah liat juga yang ini, heboh juga di forum sebelah.
    Last edited by Abang Sate; 07-04-10 at 06:37 PM.
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    Re: Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Childrens in Iraq

    Mohon mba cicil komentarnya disini,
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    Re: Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Childrens in Iraq

    Saya berharap Truther (sebagai TS) dapat menulis dengan dewasa. Sah-sah saja jika meng-copy paste suatu bahan atau sumber dari luar. Namun alangkah baiknya jika menemukan bahan diskusi dari luar, SIMPULKANLAH INTISARI dari berita atau bahan tersebut, lalu tuliskan berdasarkan ARGUMEN pribadi, dan tariklah KESIMPULAN RASIONAL dari bahan atau berita tersebut. Belajarlah untuk menulis tentang BAHAN DISKUSI secara EFEKTIF dan SISTEMATIS.

    Salam.

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    Re: Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Childrens in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Swan View Post
    Saya berharap Truther (sebagai TS) dapat menulis dengan dewasa. Sah-sah saja jika meng-copy paste suatu bahan atau sumber dari luar. Namun alangkah baiknya jika menemukan bahan diskusi dari luar, SIMPULKANLAH INTISARI dari berita atau bahan tersebut, lalu tuliskan berdasarkan ARGUMEN pribadi, dan tariklah KESIMPULAN RASIONAL dari bahan atau berita tersebut. Belajarlah untuk menulis tentang BAHAN DISKUSI secara EFEKTIF dan SISTEMATIS.

    Salam.
    Intinya ada yang di bunuh di Iraq yang dilakukan tentara AS. Gitu pak
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    Re: Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Childrens in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Abang Sate View Post
    Intinya ada yang di bunuh di Iraq yang dilakukan tentara AS. Gitu pak
    Ya silahkan TS nya tulis secara lugas (jangan hanya copy-paste). Pembahasannya pun harus RASIONAL dan SISTEMATIS. Tapi dari pengalaman di FK, sepertinya pembahasan yang seperti ini akan mengarah ke DEBAT KUSIR lagi. Sama dengan TRIT-TRIT lainnya yang membahas perdebatan SARA.

    Salam.

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    Re: Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Childrens in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Swan View Post
    Ya silahkan TS nya tulis secara lugas (jangan hanya copy-paste). Pembahasannya pun harus RASIONAL dan SISTEMATIS. Tapi dari pengalaman di FK, sepertinya pembahasan yang seperti ini akan mengarah ke DEBAT KUSIR lagi. Sama dengan TRIT-TRIT lainnya yang membahas perdebatan SARA.

    Salam.
    yahaha yang membahas ke SARA siapa thok? lha wong itu adalah info untuk para member FK untuk memperlihatkan sisi lain amerika yang lugu dan tak berdosa itu.

    menyalahkan taliban = silahkan
    Al Qaida = silahkan
    Amerika = TIDAK BOLEH

    begitu menurut mereka pak

    kalo pak swan saya yakin netral kok


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    Re: Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Childrens in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Abang Sate View Post
    yahaha yang membahas ke SARA siapa thok? lha wong itu adalah info untuk para member FK untuk memperlihatkan sisi lain amerika yang lugu dan tak berdosa itu.

    menyalahkan taliban = silahkan
    Al Qaida = silahkan
    Amerika = TIDAK BOLEH

    begitu menurut mereka pak

    kalo pak swan saya yakin netral kok


    Saya memang lebih condong untuk menjauhi PERMUSUHAN dan perdebatan keyakinan (SARA). Karena bagi saya pribadi, perdebatan SARA tidak akan memberikan nilai POSITIF bagi saya. Jika ada yang salah, ya katakan salah. Dan jika benar, katakanlah benar.

    Salam.

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    Re: Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Childrens in Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Swan View Post
    Saya memang lebih condong untuk menjauhi PERMUSUHAN dan perdebatan keyakinan (SARA). Karena bagi saya pribadi, perdebatan SARA tidak akan memberikan nilai POSITIF bagi saya. Jika ada yang salah, ya katakan salah. Dan jika benar, katakanlah benar.

    Salam.
    Nah trit ini sebagai berita untuk para suciwan dan suciwati yang ada di FK ini. amerika itu lugu dan tak berdosa. karena keluguannya sampai salah tembak. gitu


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    Re: Collateral Murder - Evil Forces slaying Journalist and Childrens in Iraq

    Waduh apa gak pernah latihan nembak???????????????

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