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    Re: The Wild West

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NiceGuy View Post
    Tidak Swan, dalam perspektif kebebasan yang murni dan konsisten satu2nya yang dianggap kriminal adalah mengekang kebebasan tersebut. Kita ini berbicara tentang kebbebasan, bukannya hukum. Kebebasan adalah pemenuhan segala kehendak manusia secara murni sedangkan hukum adalah alat untuk membatasi dan menghakimi tindakan manusia, keduanya sangat bertolak belakang. Bila kamu mengakui bahwa hukum itu diperlukan maka justru kamu telah mengakui (mungkin tanpa sadar) bahwa tindakan manusia perlu dikendalikan, dan dengan demikian itu artinya kamu telah meninggalkan falsafah kebebasan.

    Selamat Swan, mudah2an kemajuan anda ini akan segera disusul dengan perkembangan pemikiran lebih lanjut yang lebih positif.
    Quote Originally Posted by dukunPalsu View Post
    definisi kebebasan di atas adalah definisi kebebasan primitiv dan hanya cocok untuk primates, sedangkan definisi kebebasan moderen untuk homo sapiens dan homo2 lain-nya termasuk manusia musti ada batasan2 atas kebebasan tsb, batasan2 tersebut tentunya harus di sepakati bersama. Disinilah letak perbedaan manusia dengan binatang2 lain-nya. CMIIW
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NiceGuy View Post
    Tepat sekali yg anda katakan, kebebasan sebagai suatu konsep sosial memang primitif, karena hanya hewanlah yang pantas untuk bebas melakukan sesuatu tanpa dibatasi oleh aturan. Setiap manusia yg sadar akan martabatnya selalu merujuk pada suatu tatanan nilai yg akan membantunya untuk menentukan baik dan buruk sebelum dia mengambil keputusan.
    coba lihat kembali alur cerita di atas
    apakah kebebasan yang anda inginkan adalah kebebasan ala binatang?

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    Re: The Wild West

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    Police: Mass. man, Kerby Revelus, kills 2 sisters, beheading 5-year-old in front of police

    MILTON, Massachusetts - With her long hair and model's poise, 17-year-old Samantha Revelus exuded confidence when she recited an original poem Saturday afternoon about a strong woman who stood up to "ignorant souls."

    An hour after she finished rehearsal for an upcoming poetry reading, Samantha was dead on the floor of her family's home. She had been stabbed, police say, by her 23-year-old brother. Kerby Revelus then decapitated his 5-year-old sister as her birthday cake from the day before sat on the kitchen table, before turning on his 9-year-old sister, who called police.

    Responding officers broke down the door and shot him dead. The first one inside had witnessed 5-year-old Bianca's beheading.

    The 9-year-old, Sarafina, was hospitalized Sunday with defensive wounds to her hands and stab wounds in her abdomen and one of her legs.

    "In policing, we see the raw human emotion every day, but to think that a human being could afflict such an atrocious, violent act on his own family is unbelievable," Milton police Chief Richard G. Wells Jr. said Sunday.

    Investigators believe Revelus had been agitated since Friday night, when he got in a fistfight with a neighbor in this upscale suburb that is also home to Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick. Revelus, investigators believe, may have targeted Samantha in the fallout from the episode.

    "Blows were exchanged," Wells said. "I don't know the cause of it, but we're confident that did happen. He had been agitated in the hours that followed that, going into the day and last night."

    A neighbor, Norm Walsh, said the family had lived in the neighborhood for over 20 years and was warm. They were of Haitian descent, like many in a neighborhood where Creole is spoken alongside English.

    "The family is a solid family. Both parents worked; good kids. Completely makes no sense," he said.

    Investigators believe Revelus attacked his siblings with a household knife while their grandmother, who neighbors say lives on the first floor, was doing laundry in the basement. The children's parents were away; their mother is a nurse at a Boston hospital, Wells said.

    Revelus had recently served jail time on a gun charge, Wells said, but the details would not be released until courts opened Monday. Neighbors said Revelus was in a car that was pulled over by police and from which one occupant threw a gun into a sewer.

    Police had been called to the family's house in 2004 after a domestic violence report that Revelus had punched a woman living there, Wells said.

    Samantha's classmates referred to her by her nickname, "Princess," and remarked at her grace, class and friendliness. She had been one of about 20 students who had been at the high school Saturday afternoon to rehearse for the poetry jam on Thursday, and had practiced for a school fashion show earlier that morning.

    "She had a stage presence like you couldn't believe," classmate Kassi Stein said.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz15b1efws9
    Anak usia lima tahun saja dipenggal.
    tidak ada sebutan allahuakbar atau persetujuan dan latar belakang agama pada cerita yang anda sadur di atas tapi hanya murni kriminal

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    Re: The Wild West

    Quote Originally Posted by dukunPalsu View Post
    tidak ada sebutan allahuakbar atau persetujuan dan latar belakang agama pada cerita yang anda sadur di atas tapi hanya murni kriminal
    Pantas tingkat kriminalitas di masyarakat sekuler gila2an, rupanya tidak terlalu dipermasalahkan asal tidak bawa2 nama Tuhan.
    Gampang betul cari alasan untuk membunuh di sana: "Saya kan membunuh tidak atas nama Tuhan."

    Primitif sekali ya, cara berpikir masyarakat sekuler itu?
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    Re: The Wild West

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NiceGuy View Post
    Pantas tingkat kriminalitas di masyarakat sekuler gila2an, rupanya tidak terlalu dipermasalahkan asal tidak bawa2 nama Tuhan.
    Gampang betul cari alasan untuk membunuh di sana: "Saya kan membunuh tidak atas nama Tuhan."

    Primitif sekali ya, cara berpikir masyarakat sekuler itu?
    kau boleh saja menipu orang lain tapi adalah percuma engkau menipu dirimu sendiri.
    subyek pembicaraanmu selalu tuhan, nabi, agama tapi karena terpojok kini kau menipu dirimu sendiri.

    benar sekali pengakuanmu bahwa segala sesuatu masalah yang terjadi di indonesia adalah karena manusia yang bertindak segala sesuatunya atas nama tuhan.

    jangankan membunuh,... anda merasa gatal karena tidak mandi pun anda sebut tuhan, memangnya salah tuhan kalau anda malas mandi? sana mandi dulu ... kalau masih gatal pergi ke dokter, baru kemudian merintih minta pertolongan tuhan... di manakah letak tanggung jawabmu sebagai manusia?

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    Re: The Wild West

    Quote Originally Posted by dukunPalsu View Post
    kau boleh saja menipu orang lain tapi adalah percuma engkau menipu dirimu sendiri.
    subyek pembicaraanmu selalu tuhan, nabi, agama tapi karena terpojok kini kau menipu dirimu sendiri.

    benar sekali pengakuanmu bahwa segala sesuatu masalah yang terjadi di indonesia adalah karena manusia yang bertindak segala sesuatunya atas nama tuhan.

    jangankan membunuh,... anda merasa gatal karena tidak mandi pun anda sebut tuhan, memangnya salah tuhan kalau anda malas mandi? sana mandi dulu ... kalau masih gatal pergi ke dokter, baru kemudian merintih minta pertolongan tuhan... di manakah letak tanggung jawabmu sebagai manusia?
    Lihatlah para FKers, orang ini menujukkan ciri2 pengkhayal.
    Darimana dia mengira orang lain merintih-rintih?
    Dari radio atau televisi atau dari hasil nujum?

    Orang2 seperti ini akan terus mempermalukan dirinya dan kelompoknya karena ucapan2 yg dikeluarkannya justru menunjukkan rendahnya kualitas pemikirannya.
    Apakah itu ilegal? Menurut falsafah kebebasan, "Tidak, semua manusia kan berhak menjadi orang tolol."
    Last edited by Mr.NiceGuy; 21-11-10 at 03:57 PM.
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    Re: The Wild West

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NiceGuy View Post
    Lihatlah para FKers, orang ini menujukkan ciri2 pengkhayal.
    Darimana dia mengira orang lain merintih-rintih?
    Dari radio atau televisi atau dari hasil nujum?

    Orang2 seperti ini akan terus mempermalukan dirinya dan kelompoknya karena ucapan2 yg dikeluarkannya justru menunjukkan rendahnya kualitas pemikirannya.
    Apakah itu ilegal? Menurut falsafah kebebasan, "Tidak, semua manusia kan berhak menjadi orang tolol."
    kau penghayal disini
    kau tak pernah jawab secarah nyata segala sesautunya kau terserah tuhan, mana tanggung jawabmu sebagai manusia?
    bukti ketololanmu adalah kau menulis rahmat dan kebesaran tuhan di campur adukan dengan jiwa haus darah-mu pada satu halaman.
    kau berbicara kebesaran tuhan tapi slogan-mu kill 'em all
    kau tak sadar bahwa kau nyembah iblis

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    Re: The Wild West

    Quote Originally Posted by dukunPalsu View Post
    kau penghayal disini
    kau tak pernah jawab secarah nyata segala sesautunya kau terserah tuhan, mana tanggung jawabmu sebagai manusia?
    bukti ketololanmu adalah kau menulis rahmat dan kebesaran tuhan di campur adukan dengan jiwa haus darah-mu pada satu halaman.
    kau berbicara kebesaran tuhan tapi slogan-mu kill 'em all
    kau tak sadar bahwa kau nyembah iblis
    tanda2 frustasi semakin tampak.
    judul thread adalah "The Wild West" tapi dia malah membahas signature.

    itu biasa terjadi pada manusia yg terguncang.
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    Re: The Wild West

    Police: Teen sold sister, 7, for sex
    Wednesday, March 31, 2010 alex zdan
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    TRENTON -- A 15-year-old girl sold her 7-year-old sister for sex to as many as seven men and boys who gang-raped the child inside a Rowan Towers apartment Sunday night, police said.
    The teen, who was herself selling sex to party guests, allegedly watched as the rapists held her sister down and threatened to kill the young girl if she screamed.
    The elder girl, whose name was not released by police, has been arrested and charged with aggravated sexual assault, promoting prostitution and other crimes.
    "You don't even know what to say," Capt. Joseph Juniak said of the crime. "It's incomprehensible."
    The little girl put her clothes on after the attack and left the high-rise while her sister stayed behind, police said. Two strangers walked the crying child home, police said.
    Detectives have vowed to track down the participants in the rape.
    "These individuals need to be identified and brought to justice as soon as possible," Juniak said.
    An outraged Mayor Douglas Palmer could scarcely find words to express his horror.
    "As the father of a young daughter, this is one of the most abhorrent, perverted, immoral acts I've ever heard of," he said. "It's abhorrent. The police are gonna track down these people and get justice for this innocent angel."
    "I believe personally -- not as the mayor -- personally, there is a space reserved in hell for the perpetrators of this act and I know they'll get there," he said.
    The sisters had walked to Rowan in the late afternoon Sunday, heading up to a party on the 13th floor after meeting two males outside the building.
    While inside the apartment, police say the 15-year-old accepted money for sex acts with several people there. At the same time, investigators believe, she was promoting sex with her little sister. The 15-year-old headed into the bedroom, leaving the 7-year-old in the living room alone....
    Yeah.... anak kecil saja pandai bisnis, saudarinya sendiri dijual.
    Dia bisa melihat NILAI EKONOMI dalam tubuh seorang manusia.

    Masa depannya cerah, mungkin bakal jadi taipan besar nanti.
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    Re: The Wild West

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NiceGuy View Post
    tanda2 frustasi semakin tampak.
    judul thread adalah "The Wild West" tapi dia malah membahas signature.

    itu biasa terjadi pada manusia yg terguncang.
    jangan bingung, kau ketahuan manusia haus darah.
    aku tak kan terguncang dont worry about me

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    Baby killed after interrupting mom's Facebook time
    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A north Florida mother has pleaded guilty to shaking her baby to death after the boy's crying interrupted her game on Facebook.
    Alexandra V. Tobias pleaded guilty to second-degree murder on Wednesday and remains jailed.
    The Florida Times-Union reports that she told investigators she was angered because the boy was crying while she was playing the game FarmVille.
    The paper also reports that she told investigators she shook the boy, smoked a cigarette to compose herself and then shook him again.
    She will be sentenced in December. State guidelines call for 25 to 50 years, but a prosecutor said it could be shorter than that.
    A telephone message and an email sent by The Associated Press to her attorney weren't immediately returned.
    Quote Originally Posted by dukunPalsu View Post
    jangan bingung, kau ketahuan manusia haus darah.
    aku tak kan terguncang dont worry about me
    Whatever.
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